Legislature(2005 - 2006)BELTZ 211

02/07/2006 01:30 PM Senate LABOR & COMMERCE


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*+ SB 244 NO DISCRIMINATION AGAINST ACUPUNCTURIST TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ SB 260 EXTEND TASK FORCE ON WORKERS' COMP TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 260 Out of Committee
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
+= SB 136 UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION BENEFITS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSSSB 136(L&C) Out of Committee
         SB 244-NO DISCRIMINATION AGAINST ACUPUNCTURIST                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CON BUNDE announced SB 244 to be up for consideration.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THOMAS WAGONER,  sponsor, said  that people  are looking                                                               
for  other  ways  to  receive  medical  services  and  this  adds                                                               
acupuncturists to the  list of health care  providers that cannot                                                               
be  unfairly discriminated  against by  insurance companies  that                                                               
offer  group  policies.  Used in  conjunction  with  conventional                                                               
western medicine,  acupuncture has proven to  provide significant                                                               
cost  savings while  improving patients'  health. A  1993 Swedish                                                               
study  showed an  estimated $26,000  per patient  was saved  when                                                               
acupuncture  was part  of their  treatment. A  study was  done on                                                               
patients  scheduled for  knee surgery  that  showed an  estimated                                                               
$9,000 in savings per patient.  The World Health Organization has                                                               
said  that acupuncture  treats over  43 different  conditions and                                                               
helps avoid  surgery. He  related how  other studies  have proven                                                               
how effective acupuncture is and  that in Miami Dade County, drug                                                               
offenders are given the choice of acupuncture or jail.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:49:53 PM                                                                                                                    
SUZANNE  COHEN,  Licensed  Acupuncturist, supported  SB  244  and                                                               
described  the  education  that  a  licensed  acupuncturist  goes                                                               
through saying, "It  is not a series of weekend  seminars; it's a                                                               
three to four-year  masters degree program." About  60 schools in                                                               
the United  States are accredited  to educate people  in oriental                                                               
medicine.   After   graduation,    the   National   Certification                                                               
Commission  for Acupuncture  and Oriental  Medicine does  an exam                                                               
and  monitors  people  who have  become  certified.  It  mandates                                                               
continuing education of  60 hours every four years  at which time                                                               
there are  licensing renewals.  The State of  Alaska, as  well as                                                               
most  other states,  mandates  having  a national  certification.                                                               
Other states have further requirements.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
In  1995,  the same  bill  came  before  the legislature  and  it                                                               
languished in  committee.  A lot  has happened in those  10 years                                                               
such  as  the  FDA  used to  categorize  acupuncture  needles  as                                                               
experimental  devices.   Now  they   are  regulated   along  with                                                               
scalpels, syringes,  and other  tools of  the medical  trade. The                                                               
National Institute  for Health has endorsed  acupuncture for over                                                               
13 health conditions from addiction  to stroke rehabilitation and                                                               
osteoarthritis.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. COHEN said  that now Alaska Blue Cross/Blue  Shield has plans                                                               
that cover  acupuncture and over 69  licensed acupuncturists live                                                               
in Alaska.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:52:38 PM                                                                                                                    
She said the Federal Acupuncture  Coverage Act (HB 818) currently                                                               
in  Congress would  cover federal  employees and  those receiving                                                               
Medicare. She added  that this bill has a zero  fiscal note while                                                               
it expands treatment options. It is safe and effective.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:53:14 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BUNDE asked about treatment for stroke.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  COHEN  replied that  administering  acupuncture  as soon  as                                                               
possible after a stroke using  scalp points is most effective. It                                                               
increases greater mobility  and speech quicker and  it stays that                                                               
way.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BUNDE asked who would oppose the bill.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. COHEN  replied that  insurance companies  might oppose  it as                                                               
they did 10 years ago.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:54:25 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  ELLIS mentioned  that  health  problems associated  with                                                               
nicotine use  are a huge health  cost driver for state  and other                                                               
businesses. He asked if acupuncture works in smoking cessation.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. COHEN  replied yes and  related that it was  used effectively                                                               
in  a program  in  Oregon  where they  had  a  choice of  getting                                                               
acupuncture or going  to jail and at Gastineau  Human Services in                                                               
Juneau.   It was a  very effective  way for minimizing  costs for                                                               
smoking  cessation, alcoholism  and  crack addiction,  especially                                                               
when  used with  other  modalities of  treatment.  There is  less                                                               
recidivism  with  people who  are  treated  with acupuncture  and                                                               
counseling.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE asked what the  success rate is for smoking cessation                                                               
with acupuncture.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  COHEN replied  that while  she didn't  have statistics  from                                                               
studies, that anecdotally it worked very well.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:56:06 PM                                                                                                                    
LEAH  PAGENKOPF, Juneau  physical therapist,  testified that  she                                                               
was  a  huge proponent  for  acupuncture,  because she  is  often                                                               
frustrated by  what she  can offer patients  for pain  relief and                                                               
control. When she recommends acupuncture  to a patient, the first                                                               
question out  of their mouth  every time is, "Does  insurance pay                                                               
for it?"  She has to  say no and that's  usually the end  of that                                                               
conversation.  She is  amazed at  how  effective it  is for  pain                                                               
control with  no side effects,  whereas narcotics are  all habit-                                                               
forming and anti-inflammatories create  stomach problems and high                                                               
blood pressure.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:57:57 PM                                                                                                                    
VALERIE  DELAUNE, Juneau  acupuncturist,  said acupuncture  works                                                               
well in conjunction with other  therapies. No one modality can do                                                               
everything  and many  insurance  companies cover  it now  because                                                               
they figured out that it  saves money. She, personally, has saved                                                               
insurance  companies  many  thousands of  dollars  by  preventing                                                               
someone that was  slated to have surgery for  perhaps a herniated                                                               
disc by  getting them to  a point where  they were pain  free and                                                               
didn't  need surgery.  Acupuncture  is  the number-one  requested                                                               
service by  patients wanting their insurance  companies to cover.                                                               
She  said that  the  Alaska Electrical  Health  and Welfare  Fund                                                               
covers acupuncture at  90 percent per visit with no  limit on the                                                               
number of  visits - but  only for pain.  Blue Cross covers  it in                                                               
its  Dimensions  Plan, Alaska  Heritage  Plus  and several  small                                                               
companies in Juneau have bought this  plan as well as others. One                                                               
federal plan covers it and that  is the Mail Handlers Plan, which                                                               
other  employees   can  select.  The  Internal   Revenue  Service                                                               
recognizes that  health care reimbursement  accounts can  be used                                                               
for acupuncture.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:03:59 PM                                                                                                                    
RANDE  LUCAS,   President,  Acupuncture  and   Oriental  Medicine                                                               
Association of  Anchorage, supported  SB 244.  She is  a licensed                                                               
acupuncturist  and  has  also  been   a  Registered  Nurse  (RN),                                                               
specializing in  cardiac care, for  over 20 years.  She supported                                                               
the testimony of Ms. Cohen and  Ms. DeLaune. She related that she                                                               
has frequently  worked with patients  who have acute  and chronic                                                               
conditions.  Often  their medical  doctors  have  told them  that                                                               
nothing  else can  be done.  After her  treatment, patients  have                                                               
less pain and improved quality of  life. She said this bill would                                                               
eliminate    discrimination   acupuncturists    experience   when                                                               
insurance companies  state that acupuncture is  covered only when                                                               
performed by an MD or not covered at all.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:06:28 PM                                                                                                                    
COURTNEY  BEDDOW,  Owner,  Alaska  Center  of  Natural  Medicine,                                                               
supported  SB  244  for  all   the  reasons  stated  by  previous                                                               
speakers.  She emphasized  the Workers  Compensation studies  are                                                               
some  of the  most cited  as far  as reducing  costs by  allowing                                                               
employees  to receive  these benefits.  Given some  social issues                                                               
like  over-dependency  on  narcotics, increased  cost  of  health                                                               
care, it's important that SB 244  is passed so that the consumers                                                               
of medical services will actually have that choice.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BEDDOW said  this would  allow acupuncturists  to be  better                                                               
team  players   in  an   integrated  medical   field.  Currently,                                                               
Providence Hospital is starting  an integrated medical department                                                               
that will  be bringing  in acupuncture  for its  cancer patients.                                                               
Others  are beginning  this  approach as  well.  She agreed  that                                                               
insurance companies  are beginning  to see that  acupuncture does                                                               
decrease  medical costs  and consumers  are spending  $32 million                                                               
per year out of pocket on it.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:12:02 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BUNDE  remarked that  he  hadn't  availed himself  of  the                                                               
service, but  wanted to know  how expensive this  pain management                                                               
is.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BEDDOW  replied  using  15-minute   units  would  result  in                                                               
approximately $40 to $160 per hour.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:13:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  DELAUNE mentioned  that acupuncturists  are licensed  by the                                                               
State of Alaska  and certain educational requirements  have to be                                                               
met before they  can be licensed, but it is  the only health care                                                               
profession  that is  not on  the state's  list of  providers that                                                               
cannot be  discriminated against. She  pointed out that  10 years                                                               
ago, they would  have gotten resistance from  the western medical                                                               
profession, but  an news  article she  read recently  stated that                                                               
now over  85 percent  of western  medical colleges  have elective                                                               
courses in eastern medicine and she  gets a lot of referrals from                                                               
doctors.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BUNDE said  he was surprised that he  heard no opposition                                                               
to this issue and  stated that he would hold SB  244 for one week                                                               
from today. With that he adjourned the meeting at 2:15:22 PM.                                                                 

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